Armor bonus question... - Guild Wars Forums

Agent Of Balthazar · Sep 18, 2007, 05:29 PM // 17:29

Ok, I was reading GWiki and found this:

"The sum of all armor buffs gained from skills and effects cannot exceed +25. However, if one or more effects add more than +25 armor by themselves (for example +40 from Physical Resistance), then the largest of these effects counts as the total buff, even if it is larger than +25."

Now, if I have a dreadnaught insignia on all pieces of my armor (+10 ar vs ele dmg), and I have Defy Pain elite skill active (+20 Ar), do I get the +10 ar vs ele & +20 ar bonus? My question I guess is do insignias on armor count as an armor buff, or as base armor?

Now, and easier one (I think)...if I have Defy Pain active (+20 ar), and then I have Watch Yourself! on (let's say +10 ar), then since both are armor buffs, and DP is the larger buff of the two, then do I get +20 from DP, and only +5 from WY, since I can only have +25, or does WY not even count?

Steboy93 · Sep 18, 2007, 05:34 PM // 17:34

You do get the +10vs ele and +20ar from defy pain.

For 2nd question, im not 100%, but in think you will get +25ar.

*Darcy* · Sep 18, 2007, 11:08 PM // 23:08

Insignia are not part of the "armor buff" equation as their effect is not global. The limit applies to armor increases obtained from skills, etc. that affect your whole body.
Quote from update notice: "Bonuses from shields, weapons, insignia, and inscriptions are not affected and still stack."

As to question 2; You will get the +5 from "Watch Yourself" while both skills are active. If Defy Pain ends before WY, you will have the max armor buff that your attributes allow with WY.

odly · Sep 19, 2007, 08:09 AM // 08:09

And off course your teammates get the full benefit of WY even if yours is capped.

terminus123 · Sep 20, 2007, 01:29 AM // 01:29

so if I was a Ritualist wearing 60 armour +10 armour on all my armour pieces while holding an item, with Protective was Kaolai urn, I have the a univeral 94 armour lvl?

Kale Ironfist · Sep 20, 2007, 03:17 AM // 03:17

The +25 armor cap is for things you can see on your effects monitor. If the armor bonus doesn't show up there, it doesn't count towards the cap.

So yes, that example Ritualist would have 94 armor.

Spellforge · Sep 20, 2007, 11:54 AM // 11:54

So how does this +25 limit work with the PvE skills in GWEN ?

There's a dwarf one that gives you +24 armour and another +24 armour against Destroyers. And the Vanguard one that gives +24 armour and another 24 against char.

If these have a cap of +25 whats the point of adding the racial bonus - could someone explain please ?

Sep 18, 2007, 05:29 PM // 17:29	#1
Agent Of Balthazar Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Sep 2007 Profession: W/E	Armor bonus question... Ok, I was reading GWiki and found this: "The sum of all armor buffs gained from skills and effects cannot exceed +25. However, if one or more effects add more than +25 armor by themselves (for example +40 from Physical Resistance), then the largest of these effects counts as the total buff, even if it is larger than +25." Now, if I have a dreadnaught insignia on all pieces of my armor (+10 ar vs ele dmg), and I have Defy Pain elite skill active (+20 Ar), do I get the +10 ar vs ele & +20 ar bonus? My question I guess is do insignias on armor count as an armor buff, or as base armor? Now, and easier one (I think)...if I have Defy Pain active (+20 ar), and then I have Watch Yourself! on (let's say +10 ar), then since both are armor buffs, and DP is the larger buff of the two, then do I get +20 from DP, and only +5 from WY, since I can only have +25, or does WY not even count?

Sep 18, 2007, 11:08 PM // 23:08	#3
Darcy Never Too Old Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Rhode Island where there are no GW contests Guild: Order of First Profession: W/R	Insignia are not part of the "armor buff" equation as their effect is not global. The limit applies to armor increases obtained from skills, etc. that affect your whole body. Quote from update notice: "Bonuses from shields, weapons, insignia, and inscriptions are not affected and still stack." As to question 2; You will get the +5 from "Watch Yourself" while both skills are active. If Defy Pain ends before WY, you will have the max armor buff that your attributes allow with WY. __________________ That's me, the old stick-in-the-mud non-fun moderator. (and non-understanding, also)

Sep 18, 2007, 05:34 PM // 17:34	#2
Steboy93 Furnace Stoker Join Date: Feb 2007 Guild: Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] \| Ex-Officer [TAM] Profession: W/	You do get the +10vs ele and +20ar from defy pain. For 2nd question, im not 100%, but in think you will get +25ar.

Sep 19, 2007, 08:09 AM // 08:09	#4
odly Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jan 2006 Profession: N/	And off course your teammates get the full benefit of WY even if yours is capped.

Sep 20, 2007, 01:29 AM // 01:29	#5
terminus123 Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Aug 2007 Profession: N/Me	so if I was a Ritualist wearing 60 armour +10 armour on all my armour pieces while holding an item, with Protective was Kaolai urn, I have the a univeral 94 armour lvl?

Sep 20, 2007, 03:17 AM // 03:17	#6
Kale Ironfist Jungle Guide Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Australia Guild: Venatio Illuminata [VEIL] Profession: W/	The +25 armor cap is for things you can see on your effects monitor. If the armor bonus doesn't show up there, it doesn't count towards the cap. So yes, that example Ritualist would have 94 armor.

Sep 20, 2007, 11:54 AM // 11:54	#7
Spellforge Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Mar 2006 Guild: Guildless Profession: N/	So how does this +25 limit work with the PvE skills in GWEN ? There's a dwarf one that gives you +24 armour and another +24 armour against Destroyers. And the Vanguard one that gives +24 armour and another 24 against char. If these have a cap of +25 whats the point of adding the racial bonus - could someone explain please ?